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are, how do we go about as writers, political figures, judges, law professors, how do we translate the principles of the 18th century in the world of the 21st century? they talk about free speech. they attacked the separation of powers, we have the administrative state. we talk about this is an ongoing process, but given how different the world is, how do we translate the wonderful historically impressive event and say the 18th century to the different world of the 21st century? >> guest: it's not easy. one of the things i object to with so much of the propaganda that i was responding to was that it made you sound very easy. clearly we need to do this. we need to go back to what the founders intended, which is problematic on a whole lot of different levels. i think we'll make a lot of mistakes if we try to go back to the constitution and the demise of the people who wrote it because i don't believe they set down intending to create a checklist of things we need to do. i think they created a political process that is still a very dynamic process and when i've lectured about the book
that part of it comes from if you put one of the laws of school education is that white children are an inferior schools. >> host: there's action. >> guest: there's action and that is one of the things about this segregation is that many black parents understand if they get their kids into school with white kids they have leverage. one of the problems is the way in which we went about desegregation is that i agree we should have had -- that kid should have been allowed to go to central high school but what about the 900 of the first bill in the all blacks cool? what is being done to make sure that their education as equal because that would have cost a lot of money and a lot of resources and that is where the nation failed. yes we need to break down the racial barriers and make it possible to have an all white school but that still doesn't happen to deal with the problems that happen. >> host: in boston in the 70's some of it, the busing in michael foot court-ordered busing. we didn't allow our children to go to school with white kids because we wanted to integrate. they go to th
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